KS has been under fire from a lot of groups that have been trying to take KS and us for a ride, right now, they simply don't care, I would call areal a real near miss, because it should never have got off the starting block, because areal devs did so much stuff wrong, KS allowed them to swopp lower and lower, 4 days of real spam walls, of comments that really did shut down the comments section, fake as day putin letter, and so much more, KS should have taken all the reports they were getting seriously, but they didn't, and like I said its not the only case of groups coming on and trying their luck.
the thing a week or two for a big budget game is pretty much too late, take a look at night trap again, not going to make it, because they failed to achieve a big chunk of the funding from the first 48 hours, if a game fails to achieve this, they are pretty much dead in the water, night trap is proof of that, all they can do is to do a relaunch, but if they don't, and let it side, they will lose their chance of doing another KS, the other thing is, KS has changed, its no longer a platform that can be trusted aynmore, so much dangers and risks, and again KS doesn't care, they have zero protection for backers, nothing too make backers feel safe when backing a risky project from a safe project, people can't tell the difference anymore. and again the list in the game category section is proof of that, same with all the other sections, since potato salad, we seen a huge raise of them, what happens if they get funded?
uless KS starts to take notice what is going on, how many projects they are allowing on that simply shouldn't be there.
even then there been other heavy weights come and and failed to achieve funding,
take a look at this game, https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/an ... f=category
got a lot of heavy weight people there and they are struggling, as they had no gameplay footage at the start, and they might have to ask for publisher help, that will only break up the team,
this is the real issue, with so many projects becoming more and more iffy, more and more another potato salad type projects, and I would class a lot of projects in that gaming category like that, so to be honest, if you do ask for a lot of money, then yes, you need to have a prototype, as people won't trust you, would have been fine if the games were asking for 100k or less, but Umdlalo was asking for half a mill, and like I said, because of the way the pages looked, it failed to achieve 1/3 of its funding in the first two days, and that wasn't down to me, that was down to how the project looked, again look at night trap, but others have come on, asked for more and failed.
but this is really a critical issue with KS, with the platform, how can backers really trust if a creator can or will create a game? times have changed since frontiers came onto KS, and before that double fine, the platform is starting to become mistrusted, the list of failures are growing, other games like stomping lands, and other games that have noting to show of it,
at the end of the day, KS needs too change, sure it shouldn't be us that should be warning off backers or trying to say if a project looks legit or not, but unless KS starts to add some kind of system that will help backers to see if a project has some warnings, reported posts, then the platform will be harder for backers to say, does that look like a legit project?? or is that a fake one? I been on the platform for a long time, now its just soo hard to say what is real anymore, areal was an easy one, had a lot of red flags, but the fact of the matter is, KS should have shut it down before it even got half way, and I was there, the spam walls, the fake putin letter, the name calling, for those that were both watching it as a backer or simply watching it on the fence, how could KS have allowed that to got so far is beyond me, at least they did suspended knuckle club sooner, and that was another dodgy one.
if lars had done a KS now, I simply don't think he would have done as well, that is my hunch, he probably would have got the game funded, but how high is another matter, backers need more and more proof that a project is real, so gameplay is needed for any project over 100k, otherwise people will pass it by, sure there been some that have successfully funded with a lot of money asked, but only if you really know that studio, but for many others, concept art and walls of text on the home page doesn't work anymore, its not 2012 anymore,
but I will come to thhe end, say no more about it, but as I said, KS is dangerous, that is the reason for the thread, I got carried away with things, I also admit that, but unless things change, people will go else where for crowd funding, and we won't see any new games, no raising stars, and that for the gaming community would be a shame,
edithttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/32 ... tato-salad
while the project is a joke, and he made a few mistakes and admitted to them, as he started the KS as a joke, it does prove how asleep at the wheel KS has become. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /14050411/
even though technically charity he at least told KS of his intentions, but it was suppose to be a joke, a bit of harmless fun,
but the real issue is, some of the campaigns on KS seem to be trying the same stunt, another good example of a project that shouldn't have been allowed on, (not touched it only reported it) but I can't remember the link, but a collage graduate wanted $5000 so that he could use backers money to play with the stock market, while he was saying he could give backers t shirts, and while it wasn't going to be funded anyway, but it just boggles the mind, why the hell KS even allowed it? and this was a real live project, and what happened if it DID get funded? and then he loses everything, what then? what do backers get out of it? its stuff like that that shouldn't have been allowed to begin with, on top of more and more potential potato salad projects, as I saw another project that got approved, another joke, someone wanting to do Half life 3, he canned it himself, but it still boggles the mind how or why KS allowed it for starters.
its projects like those, that pose a big risk, that KS is very much alseep at the wheel or allowing so many of these projects on. and this is the other key point, how are backers meant to tell the difference? and what if many of those joke projects did get funded? even if its not just the dodgy projects like areal, like forever bible, knuckle club and many others, this is a real concern to backers, which is the point Im really trying to make here, KS is dangerous, there is no two ways about that. this isn't 2012 anymore, or even 2013 (frontiers) but 2014 and times have very much changed.
I have sent a email to KS support and see if an idea of some kind of traffic light system could be used, so that the report button seems to be more useful, so that if a project does get a lot of reports, then the banner where it says successfully funded, cancelled, but be used for green, yellow and red banners, so the more that the project is reported, that banner changes colour, and when a project is a yellow banner, project creators will have a chance to work with KS and resolve the issues. but if a project like areal does come back on, and there is a risk of another areal, then we can report it and shut it down, then it would say to those that are trying to cheat backers, they aren't welcome here,
as the other issue is, areal should never have been allowed to get as far as it did, but the above idea might help, and be a clear indication if a project could be a bit wrong, but if it is a false alarm, then the banner could turn back to green, but if the number of reports equal to a greater threshold, the banner could turn red, and this would be a clear cut suspension case.
as KS is still not really adapted to the dangers, and they need too, so I really hope something like this gets added, as to me, the ticket system and the report system is a waste of time otherwise, a huge number of us most have reported areal, the fact it got close to its 48 hour mark of been funded, was a real concern,
anyway, this is my final word on this, KS needs to change, and it is a dangerous system to back any game or project on now, no two ways about that. so unless KS changes to make backers and genuine creator's lives a lot easier, it won't be around for much longer.
found the stock market one Im on about, only reported it, otherwise left it alonehttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/19 ... nav_search