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Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by SignpostMarv » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:12 pm

Can we put books on bookshelves?

If yes, will they be physics-enabled, or will they be statically displayed on the shelves so they won't accidentally fall off?
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by Vance » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:20 am

I am hoping objects will be static so it won't bog the pc down and allow for more extensive modifications.
If the object turns into a physics enabled object for a brief moment after the player interacts with that object, I think that would be cool.
But if not, static all the way for miscelaneous objects.

If Frontiers is coded to support 64 bit computers, I think physics could be more prevalent because the game could utilize more system ram.
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by Toyan » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:47 am

Even just something like they have in Skyrim would do. Where you add the books to the shelf inventory, and when you are done, the books are all lined up nice and neat. I like neatness in my games (my flat is a mess, but my abodes in games are immaculate!).
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by SignpostMarv » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:13 pm

Toyan wrote:Even just something like they have in Skyrim would do. Where you add the books to the shelf inventory, and when you are done, the books are all lined up nice and neat. I like neatness in my games (my flat is a mess, but my abodes in games are immaculate!).


I just checked; Skyrim's bookshelves are actually physically simulated, but they're "locked" into the shelf- they can be rearranged but not pulled out- this differs from arbitrary shelves, where items are merely placed there.
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by Zolana » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:54 pm

SignpostMarv wrote:
I just checked; Skyrim's bookshelves are actually physically simulated, but they're "locked" into the shelf- they can be rearranged but not pulled out- this differs from arbitrary shelves, where items are merely placed there.


I quite like that system, it certainly makes lining them up a nice, simple, and automatic process! I probably wouldn't have the patience to do it manually!
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by DWMagus » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:08 pm

Toyan wrote:Even just something like they have in Skyrim would do. Where you add the books to the shelf inventory, and when you are done, the books are all lined up nice and neat. I like neatness in my games (my flat is a mess, but my abodes in games are immaculate!).


I think this would have to be answered by how much interaction we have with a home/object. I mean, we aren't playing Librarian Tycoon afterall (although, I would play that game!). :lol:
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by TrackerTaz » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:42 pm

I'm a Huge collector of books in Skyrim !! I got a mod for it that had so many bookcases that I could use a case for each letter :biggrin: I love my library. It was in some ruins that I got to repair.
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by Josiah » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:54 pm

SignpostMarv wrote:
Toyan wrote:Even just something like they have in Skyrim would do. Where you add the books to the shelf inventory, and when you are done, the books are all lined up nice and neat. I like neatness in my games (my flat is a mess, but my abodes in games are immaculate!).


I just checked; Skyrim's bookshelves are actually physically simulated, but they're "locked" into the shelf- they can be rearranged but not pulled out- this differs from arbitrary shelves, where items are merely placed there.


I also enjoy the Skyrim system. It would be nice if it was implemented like that in Frontiers.
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by SignpostMarv » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:57 pm

Josiah wrote:
SignpostMarv wrote:
Toyan wrote:Even just something like they have in Skyrim would do. Where you add the books to the shelf inventory, and when you are done, the books are all lined up nice and neat. I like neatness in my games (my flat is a mess, but my abodes in games are immaculate!).


I just checked; Skyrim's bookshelves are actually physically simulated, but they're "locked" into the shelf- they can be rearranged but not pulled out- this differs from arbitrary shelves, where items are merely placed there.


I also enjoy the Skyrim system. It would be nice if it was implemented like that in Frontiers.


It would be nice if shelves were implemented like that for everything, not just books :)
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by Zolana » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:11 pm

SignpostMarv wrote:
It would be nice if shelves were implemented like that for everything, not just books :)


And stuff like the display cases in Skyrim too? :)
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by SignpostMarv » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:15 pm

Zolana wrote:
SignpostMarv wrote:
It would be nice if shelves were implemented like that for everything, not just books :)


And stuff like the display cases in Skyrim too? :)


I haven't checked display cases recently; aren't they just a box with a lid on & fully simulated, physics-wise?
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by Vance » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:22 pm

I hate Skyrim's system.

I prefer Morrowind's item placing system (including books) where it lets the player drop items anywhere he or she wants to.

I dislike automated systems. >.<
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by SignpostMarv » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:09 pm

Vance wrote:I hate Skyrim's system.

I prefer Morrowind's item placing system (including books) where it lets the player drop items anywhere he or she wants to.

I dislike automated systems. >.<


An automated system that we're thinking of here would preserve aesthetics by preventing items from being knocked off if you have deliberately placed them somewhere.
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Re: Books on bookshelves

PostPosted by Zolana » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:13 pm

SignpostMarv wrote:
An automated system that we're thinking of here would preserve aesthetics by prevent items from being knocked off if you have deliberately placed them somewhere.


This is exactly why I liked the Skyrim system. Imagine the time and effort it would take to replace them if they fell off!
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